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LIVE 8.1.3 ist draußen!

http://www.ableton.com/latest_versions


Achtung: Tracks, die ihr mit der 8.1.3er Version abspeichert, lassen sich nicht mit irgendeiner vorherigen Version von Live öffnen. Auch nicht mit der vorherigen 8.1.1er Version!
Glaubt mir, ich habs probiert. :)


Changelog:
Zitat:
Improvements and feature changes


- Live 8.1.3 adds support for the Akai APC20 and Novation Remote SL MKII controllers.

- On some systems, Live will start-up faster.

- It's now easier to report problems, via the "Report a bug..." option in Live's Help menu.

- Manuals, lessons and software texts are now available in Italian.


Bugfixes


Crashes and corrupted Sets

- A rare crash could occur when clip envelopes were visible for a newly-recorded clip on a track in which a clip had previously been deleted.

- A crash could occur when changing the Driver Error Compensation amount while recording in a loop. (viewtopic.php?p=1052150#p1052150)

- Dragging a file from iTunes into Live would crash Live if the path to the file could not be resolved.

- A crash could occur when moving a track in a Set that contained no Return tracks. (viewtopic.php?f=1&t=132874&start=70)

- A crash could occur when opening the Max editor if the installed version of Max was too old to be used with Max for Live.

- A crash could occur when deleting all Return tracks while the APC40 was enabled. (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=133156)

- A MIDI controller in Mackie Control mode could be used to route an ungrouped audio track to a Group Track, which could cause a crash. (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=133754&p=1057147#p1057147)

- Copying clips from tracks containing Max for Live devices which send getpath to live.object on a loadbang would crash Live.

- In a very rare situation, undoing after a particular combination of Sampler parameter changes could crash Live.

- A crash could occur when loading Sets (or copying tracks within a Set) while using certain Audio Units plug-ins. (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=133868)

- A crash could occur when selecting "Collect All and Save" when the Set contained specific Max for Live devices.

- A crash could occur when selecting non-adjacent tracks from an unfolded Set in Live's Browser and dragging them into the currently open Set.

- A crash could occur when extracting the groove from a MIDI clip if that groove had Quantize set to 100%.

- A crash could occur when opening a template Set that contained missing frozen samples.

- Undoing while dragging clips or devices could crash Live.

- Moving a scene that contains playing MIDI clips that are within a follow action group while recording could crash Live.

- In rare cases, Arturia Analog Factory could produce invalid audio output, which could cause a crash on Windows. Live will no longer crash in this situation but you will not hear audio from the plug-in if it occurs. We are working with Arturia to solve this.

- A crash could occur when starting Live the first time after deleting Live's Preferences folder without deleting its Database folder.

- A crash could occur when running Live as a ReWire slave and loading a Live Set with MIDI-mapped Track Launch buttons.

- A crash could occur when moving a Group Track that is routed to the input of another track.

- In rare cases, drag-and-dropping Live's instruments onto each other could crash Live.

- A crash could occur when creating a Return Track via keyboard shortcut while moving another track with the mouse.

- In rare cases, searching in the Plug-In Device Browser could crash after toggling "Use Audio Units" on and off.

- Certain characters in folder names were incorrectly read by Live, which could cause corrupt Live Sets.

- In rare cases, crashes could occur when Hot-Swapping grooves.

- A crash could occur when dragging extremely short samples onto Looper.

- On Windows, pressing the Dump button to upload a controller preset to an Akai MPK49 selected as a controller surface via a DirectMusic MIDI port would crash Live.

- If the computer crashed while a Live Set was being saved, the Set could be corrupted.

- A crash could occur when playing back or selecting an audio clip that has had very specific groove settings applied and then been reversed.

- A crash could occur when committing a groove to multiple audio clips simultaneously if the clips were exactly identical and with identical warp markers.

- A crash could occur when dragging a Live clip (.alc) onto another Live clip if the two .alcs contain Drum Racks with Return chains containing slightly different devices.

- In rare cases, a crash could occur when opening a Set from the list of recently opened Sets. (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=139808)

- A crash could occur when changing the monitor state of an audio track that is selected together with a Group track containing a MIDI track. (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=139330)

- A crash could occur while logging out of Windows while Live was running.


MIDI Controllers and External Devices

- MIDI/Key mapping the title bar of devices within Racks would not work properly.

- When recording a clip in Session View, the APC40 would not flash red to reflect the state of the clip. (viewtopic.php?f=1&t=133155)

- When using multiple APC40 and/or APC20 controllers simultaneously, the Exclusive Arm and Exclusive Solo options would not work properly.

- Holding certain combinations of buttons on the APC40 could cause scrolling to become stuck. (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=130824)

- The Launchpad would sometimes not correctly show a clip's playback state if the clip was within a Group Track that was folded and the Arrangement View was visible.

- The APC40 could become unresponsive when using Sets containing device presets that had umlauts in their names.

- The tempo could not be changed when Live was synced to an external device using MIDI timecode (MTC).


Miscellaneous

- Automation errors could occur when copying clips within tracks containing Audio Units plug-ins.

- Audio Units plug-ins with variable views could not be resized properly.

- Mapping certain parameters of some Audio Units plug-ins to Live's assignable X-Y control would not work properly.

- Graphical errors could occur in the mixer when dropping instruments onto empty MIDI tracks.

- When moving the insertion mark with the computer arrow keys, the view would not scroll.

- Dragging the same audio clip into a Set multiple times could result in some of the clips having no visible transients.

- Moving Sampler's loop parameters via arrow keys or via mouse would not always be undoable.

- Audible clicks could occur when the Chorus device's activator was mapped to a Macro knob. (viewtopic.php?f=1&t=133408)

- In certain cases, deleting devices from a track could cause another track to become selected.

- Some registry entries in Windows 7 could cause problems with decoding mp3 files.

- Automation errors could occur when recording frozen Session View clips into the Arrangement View.

- In rare cases, copying and pasting a selection of clips in the Arrangement would place the new clips in the wrong tracks.

- Dragging a Session View clip to the Arrangement View while the clip was recording would create a very long clip in the Arrangement.

- The OK button was not selected by default in the Quantize dialog. (viewtopic.php?p=971914)

- In some cases, replacing a sample by dropping a different one onto it in the File Manager would retain the transients of the original sample.

- In Sets containing a very large number of tracks, it was sometimes not possible to select a track by clicking its header in the Session View.

- It was not possible to save a Simpler preset if the Simpler contained a sample that had no name.

- Navigation between clip slots via arrow keys wouldn't work properly if a Group Track slot was selected.

- At very high Zoom amounts, the splash screen and other windows shown early in the launch process could appear partly off-screen.

- Various other stability improvements


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 Betreff des Beitrags: Re: Neue Live Updates
BeitragVerfasst: 21. Apr 2010 20:31 
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Ich zitiere mal vom offiziellen Forum:
TobiasHahn hat geschrieben:
Hi all:

Just to clarify:

  • Live sets saved with Live 8.1.3 will not open in previous versions of Live (Live 8.1.1, Live 8.1, Live 8.0.x etc.).

But:

  • Live 8.1.3 will of course open all Live sets saved with previous versions. If not it is a serious bug.
  • Live 8.1.3 should also be able to open Live sets saved in yet to be released, future Live 8.1.x bugfix updates such as Live 8.1.4. If not, it it as a bug.
  • Live 8.1.3 will most likely not be able to open Live sets saved with any (yet to be developed) major upgrade of Live such as Live 9 since such an upgrade will likely introduce changes which are incompatible with Live 8.

Best,
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 Betreff des Beitrags: Re: Neue Live Updates
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mit der 8.1.3 hat sich wohl auch die Controllerunterstützung verbessert:
http://recording.de/Magazin/News/Produk ... ml#article


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 Betreff des Beitrags: Re: Neue Live Updates
BeitragVerfasst: 22. Apr 2010 21:28 
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oje oje..

sehe schon was kommen :smile:

futter für die blöden " für umsonst BETAtester "

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Ableton hat sich jetzt doch dazu entschlossen einen Changelog rauszugeben. Hab ihn in den ersten Post rein kopiert.


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Live 8.1.4 ist draußen!

Changelog:
Zitat:
Bugfixes

- Fixed a bug that caused the Drum Machines LD Live Pack to not work in Live Intro.

- Fixed a rare crash that could occur when deleting a Drum Rack pad.

- Fixed a crash that could occur when moving a track with an automated parameter that is also MIDI mapped.

- In very rare cases, Live would crash when running extremely loud signals through Overdrive.

- Custom Min/Max values for MIDI- or key-mapped parameters on VST plug-ins would be lost after saving and reloading the Set.

- When using clip envelopes to modulate the parameters of third-party plug-ins, the modulation range would be broken after saving and reloading the Set. (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=141378&start=0)

- Some Sets which were saved in earlier versions of Live could not be opened in recent versions.

- In certain cases, clips would not blink properly when using Follow Actions with launch quantization set to None. (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=140427)

- Dragging a sample onto the waveform of an existing clip in Session view would reset the Launch settings of the clip.

- In certain cases, launching a warped audio clip would play the unwarped version simultaneously.

- In some cases, Gate launch mode for Session view clips would not behave correctly.

- In certain cases, conflicting fade and volume envelopes would inadvertently mute audio clips in the Arrangement.

- Occasionally, loud clicks could occur when using crossfades in the Arrangement.

- When recording into the Arrangement, clicks could occur when "Create Fades on Clip Edges" was enabled.

- In certain cases, clicks could occur when turning on the filter in Sampler/Simpler while holding a note.

- The faders on the Mackie Control would not behave correctly when volume is automated in Live.

- In certain cases, when recording a clip in Session View, the APC40 would not flash red to reflect the state of the clip. (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=133154)

- Fixed a bug that would cause automation to always be overridden when using Ultra Analog. This would result in the Back to Arrangement button becoming active.

- In some cases, the dialog box that should show trial options when starting Live without an authorization would be empty instead.

- On OS X, missing media files without a file extension could not be replaced.

- In certain cases, a dialog about temporary files would be shown even though there were no temporary files.

- Live now ignores invalid MIDI data (for example, MIDI CC values that don't exist.)

- Fixed a rare crash that occurred when opening documents while the mouse moves in certain areas.

- Fixed a crash that occurred when dragging a Live Set which contains a sample that has been shortened outside of Live to the Session view, while this sample is already in use in the Arrangement view.

- Fixed an issue in which configuring a third-party plug-in by clicking one of its parameters in the plug-in GUI while Configure is ON would not show the right value for the parameter in the Live GUI of the plug-in.

- The APC 40 wouldn't always update its state properly when loading a new Live set.

- Live could hang when undoing the deletion of a parameter mapping in the Live GUI of a 3rd party plug-in.

- Fixed a crash that occurred when firing a scene while moving a Group Track.

- We now ignore "non automatable" parameters for AU plug-ins, in terms of assigning them in the Live plug-in GUI.

- Fixed a rare crash that could occur when loading a new song or quitting Live while the mouse hovered a Max for Live device.

- Various other stability improvements


http://www.ableton.com/de/download-live


Neuerdings kann man mit und ohne Content wählen, dann läd man die Library nicht mit runter und der download veringert sich auf nur knapp 200mb.

Wer bereits Live 8.1.3 installiert hat, der kann den 200mb installer benutzen. :)


EDIT:
Crashed bei mir wie blöd, bin wieder auf 8.1.3, denn das läuft super stabil.


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BeitragVerfasst: 7. Jul 2010 00:18 
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adl hat geschrieben:
...Neuerdings kann man mit und ohne Content wählen, dann läd man die Library nicht mit runter und der download veringert sich auf nur knapp 200mb...
das wurde auch mal zeit, dass die darauf kommen. allerdings hab ich mich selber auch erst vor kurzem zum ersten mal gefragt, warum das nicht schon so ist.
schade dass es scheinbar nicht so stabil läuft, aber ich probiers trotzdem mal aus. kann auf nem anderen rechner ja auch ganz anders aussehen.


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Hm, irgendwie komisch:

Es crashed nur ein bestimmter Track, alle andren scheinen recht stabil zu laufen, jedenfalls ist sonst keiner abgestürzt. Ich hatte gestern nur den einen als erstes geladen und der ist halt gleich 2x hintereinander abgestürzt. Habe jetzt heute noch mal ein paar andre laufen lassen und die funzen prima.

Ich habe dem Support jetzt mal nen bugreport geschickt, mal sehen was die daraus erkennen. Seltsam nur, da ich in diesem einen Track garnix so besonderes laufen habe: paar VST´s die ich auch sonst einsetze und paar Audiospuren, CPU ist bei 50%.

Naja, ihr könnt ja mal eure Erfahrungen mit 8.1.4 posten, wenn ich wollt.


P.S
Changelog ist jetzt raus und in dem Post oben.


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Das Update ohne Content gibts offiziell nur auf ableton.com oder wo bekomm ich das sonst noch her? :?


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Takinu hat geschrieben:
Das Update ohne Content gibts offiziell nur auf ableton.com oder wo bekomm ich das sonst noch her? :?


wo soll man deiner meinung nach es denn noch bekommen ?
versteh die frage irgendwie net.. :D


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Takinu hat geschrieben:
Das Update ohne Content gibts offiziell nur auf ableton.com oder wo bekomm ich das sonst noch her? :?


Wie meinst´n das? :huh:


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oje oje..

sehe schon was kommen

futter für die blöden " für umsonst BETAtester "


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Apropos "Beta-Tester"...nächste Beta ist raus:

Zitat:
8.1.5b1 Bugfixes

- 3rd party plugin windows now get the focus when clicked, always.

- Blocked certain keys when a 3rd party plugin window has the focus, such as the "Delete" and "Backspace" keys, which fixes the bug that would delete a plugin or a track, while pressing Delete/Backspace while editing a 3rd party plugin in its own GUI.

- Fixed a bug that would make a group slot lose its MIDI/Key mapping when moving the corresponding scene (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=140895)

- Fixed a bug that prevented adding or removing the stop button of a group track slot while the group track is folded (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=140895)

- Fixed a visual bug where a green overlay could be left orphan in a 3rd party Ableton GUI

- The Min or Max parameters in the mapping Browser, for mapped 3rd party plugin parameter, could lose the focus as soon as they were touched, making it impossible, for example, to edit them via the computer keyboard arrow keys.

- The Ableton GUI of an AU plugin would be empty after loading a native AU preset, for plugins having less than 32 parameters. In such a case, the GUI should be automatically populated.

- Fixed a bug that prevented removing a parameter from the Ableton GUI of a 3rd party plugin, while Configure mode is ON, if it was macro-mapped.

- Dragging a first warped clip in a non-empty arrangement would sometimes set the tempo of the Live set. The correct condition is that this should only happen if the Arrangement contains no clip at all.

- It was not possible to click inside a multi-selection, while in Key or MIDI map mode, as to change the selection and select only one of its constituents. This is now fixed.

- Fixed another key handling problem for some plugins using a Cocoa view.

- Fixed a bug where MIDI notes would hang in case an AU plugin is deactivated, then re-activated, in some cases.

- If the last note with the Loop brace, in a MIDI clip, would overlap the Loop end, selecting the loop brace and choosing "Duplicate" would duplicate the Loop's material offset. Now duplication correctly duplicates the Loop length, at the correct position.

- When an external instrument would route to a multi-timbral MIDI instrument, and that instrument or the containing track would be moved, the routing would be reset to the default output. Now routings are correctly remembered

- Improved audio streaming performances for specific Live sets with lots of audio files.

- Corrected a bug that would make computer keyboard selection behave incorrectly after having selecting a clip via remote control

- Various other stability improvements


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Live 8.1.5 ist draussen.

Changelog:

Zitat:
Bugfixes

- Unwarped clips could be placed incorrectly after opening a Live Set, if the Set was saved after changing the global tempo without first confirming the change with the Enter key or by clicking somewhere else in the interface.

- Fixed a visual bug that made MIDI clips entirely black while recording, but before the first note was input.

- Fixed a crash when observing 'has_stop_button' of a Group Track Slot via M4L GroupTrackSlot.

- Fixed a crash that occurred when loading a Group preset containing an AU plug-in that is missing.

- Fixed a crash that could occur with clips warped in Beats mode, Transients and back-and-forth envelope settings, when the loop extends outside the sample data.

- Fixed a bug where typing a tempo in the BPM field of a warped clip would give a slightly wrong number (i.e. you type "100" and "100.0001" gets entered," which led to some neutrality problems.

- 3rd party plug-in windows now always get the focus when clicked.

- Blocked certain keys when a 3rd party plug-in window has the focus, such as the "Delete" and "Backspace" keys, which fixes the bug that would delete a plug-in or a track when pressing Delete/Backspace while editing a 3rd party plug-in in its own GUI.

- Fixed a bug that would make a group slot lose its MIDI/Key mapping when moving the corresponding scene (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=140895)

- Fixed a bug that prevented adding or removing the stop button of a group track slot while the group track is folded (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=140895)

- Fixed a visual bug where a green overlay could be left orphaned in a 3rd party Ableton GUI

- The Min or Max parameters in the mapping Browser, for mapped 3rd party plug-in parameters, could lose the focus as soon as they were touched. This made it impossible to edit them via the computer keyboard arrow keys.

- The Ableton GUI of an AU plug-in would be empty after loading a native AU preset, for plug-ins having fewer than 32 parameters. In such a case, the GUI should be automatically populated.

- Fixed a bug that prevented removing a parameter from the Ableton GUI of a 3rd party plu-gin while Configure mode is ON, if it was Macro-mapped.

- Dragging a first warped clip in a non-empty Arrangement would sometimes set the tempo of the Live Set. The correct condition is that this should only happen if the Arrangement contains no clip at all.

- It was not possible to click inside a multi-selection while in Key or MIDI map mode in order to change the selection and select only one of its constituents. This is now fixed.

- Fixed another key handling problem for some plug-ins using a Cocoa view.

- Fixed a bug where MIDI notes could hang if an AU plug-in was deactivated and then reactivated.

- If the last note within the Loop brace, in a MIDI clip, overlapped the Loop end, selecting the loop brace and choosing "Duplicate" would duplicate the looped material's offset. Now duplication correctly duplicates the Loop length, at the correct position.

- When an External Instrument was routed to a multi-timbral MIDI instrument, and that instrument or the containing track was moved, the routing would be reset to the default output. Now routings are correctly remembered.

- Improved audio streaming performance for specific Live Sets with many audio files.

- Corrected a bug that would make computer keyboard selection behave incorrectly after selecting a clip via remote control.

- Fixed crash when mouse was pressed in the detail view before sample analysis finished.

- Fixed crash when dragging MIDI from XLN's Addictive Drums.

- Fixed a crash that occurred when zooming into a large waveform with an extreme zoom factor.

- Fixed a bug that made Collision silent after deleting it and undoing.

- Various other stability improvements




Download ist hier:
http://www.ableton.com/de/downloads

EDIT:
Läuft gut stabil mit dem einen Track bei dem 8.1.4 immer binnen Sekunden gecrashed ist (hatte den Track mit 8.1.3 gemacht und da lief er auch suberstabil, nur unter 8.1.4 ist er immer sofort gecrashed.

Wie läuft das update bei euch?


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Bugfixliste oben angefügt.

Finds schon heftig, wieviele Bugs da mittlerweile ausgemerzt wurden. Live 8 war sowas von nicht fertig für releasen damals. :rad:

War halt doch ne wirtschaftliche Entscheidung damals: es war Musikmesse und man brauchte wohl die Messeplattform als Werbung. Schade wenn dabei die Qualität auf der Strecke bleibt.

Nach einigen Test´s ist 8.1.5 echt superstabil und es kann zu geringerem CPU Verbrauch kommen, was wohl hiermit zusammenhängt:
Zitat:
- Improved audio streaming performance for specific Live Sets with many audio files.


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Schau dir mal die ganzen ewiglangen Listen von Bugfixes an die jetzt seit dem 8er Release verbessert wurden. Ich behaupte es ist mittlerweile so komplex geworden (Hard- und Software Kombinationen) das es fraglich ist, ob heutzutage solch eine Software überhaupt noch annähernd Bugfrei wird. Reason vielleicht noch - aber nur weil sie erst gar keine Plugins und Midi unterstützen.


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@Zolo: Wie meinst Du das mit Reason unterstützt kein MIDI? Kannst doch ein MIDI Keyboard auswählen und damit in Reason etwas einspielen.


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Zolo hat geschrieben:
Reason vielleicht noch - aber nur weil sie erst gar keine Plugins und Midi unterstützen.
Man kann nicht nur ein Midi Keyboard anschließen sondern auch zwei oder drei - und diese mit den verschiedenen virtuellen Instrumenten fix verbinden. Wer will kann auch einen Breath-Controller oder ein Drumpad verwenden.

Reason kann auch von außen Midi empfangen via Rewire.

Das einzige was fehlt, und auf der Wuschliste vieler Reson/Record-User steht, ist ein Midi-Out.

Was meinst du also mit "Unterstützt kein Midi"?


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